Ugignadl

Sorry ML, but I fold preflop.

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MewsicLovr

Point understood and taken - but now that I'm here, call or fold?

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

jcarter

My heart says call.


But if I put myself into that situation, My BALLS say fold!

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bigloser2448

It sucks, but with no reads, it has to be a fold. IMO, even though any rational player shouldn't have called your flop bet with a flush draw, I think more times than not you be up against the flush on that turn. It really doesn't matter what he actually had in this exact spot to determine whether it's right or wrong. Again, just my opinion.

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Ugignadl

Well, I don't think I bet the flop either if I for some reason am here with this hand. You have a bloated pot that way, and any value you need from the flush draw can be achieved on the turn. It's not anything like a cash game, the tournament situation, and you don't need or want to get maximum value in chips from
every street. It's not worth the risk. In tournaments you need to play the balancing game between achieving maximum value and minimum risk.

If for some reason I think I'm playing a cash game and I have bet the flop like this, I instacall the turn.

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darinvg

Yeah, too agro PF. I'm calling the turn.
Why are all the threads disappear in this section?

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Mirage

As much as I love T9o, I think these guys are right; it might be a bit light to come in for a raise here. As played I call the turn but I'm not fist-pumping.

What about JTo, would you guys iso with that here?

MewsicLovr

Look in your user options to increase the thread filter to show all threads from all time (if that's what you want). I think the default is two weeks.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

darinvg

Ah, thanks ML.
I don't raise JTo either. I guess I'd just limp JTs. I'm not a 6 max expert but they've been going fairly well. More discussion would be good.

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MewsicLovr

Not really defending my play but I will say that these things seem kinda weak-tight for the most part in the later levels; a lot of times a raise will take the blinds, and the other times a simple 1/2-2/3 pot flop bet will take it down, and that's completely ignoring my actual hand.

Might be my sample size though, dunno. Interested in thoughts.

*edit* by "later levels" I mean about 50/100 and up...this is probably still too early, granted.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol