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Old 11-27-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

Sng Step tourney 10 Players

Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players: 5
Seat 3: ( $680 ) - in game
Seat 4: ( $945 ) - in game
Seat 7: ( $1385 ) - in game
Seat 8: SB( $2415 ) - in game
Seat 9: BB HERO( $4575 ) - in game
SEat 8 posts SB $50.
HERO posts BB $100.
**** dealing down cards ****
Dealt to Hero [ :Ad: :Kh:]
1 fold
Seat 4 raises $350.
SEat 7 raises $1200.
SB raises $2365. All in

Hero ????????

This is a step table One winner only moves on to next level.

If I call and win I am Dominating the chips
If I call and lose I am still in second with some chips.

I am facing 3 all ins

Note they are all donks

What do you do?????
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

Maybe the stratgey is different because this is a step and it's winner take all. Still I would not feel good about calling 3 all-ins with AK. If they are donks, as you say, then you can find a better spot than just gambling with them. I would wait.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

You're already dominating the Chips. I'd wait. Blind vs. Blind, absolutely call. But I NEVER win these showdowns and I don't care what the math might say to do here. I suppose you are possibly +EV, which would mean that you'll probably lose this hand but may win more chips overall if you do it 1000 times, but I don't know if that figures into it in a winner takes all Step tourney. Anyone else.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

Fold. Worst case scenario is one or both of them has you dominated, best case is you're up against two lower pairs. More likely you're up against 88 and AJ for ex. and 88 is going to have the lion's share of the equity.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

Since it's winner take all this is probably pretty close and I'm really not sure. I'm leaning toward a fold.
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Default Re: Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

Winner take all makes it tough but I think it's a fold still.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Step SNG 10 man Call 3 all ins or wait

It's close. I'd say that calling is +chipEV but that may not be +$EV.

Actually since it is winner takes all I'd say it probably is +$EV to call.
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I fold. Reason being someone's probably got a pair (statistically) and someone's probably got an ace (statistically) or KQ, so some of my outs are gone.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:05 PM
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I folded and had no qualms about it. I put two of them on high pairs and expected to see Aces or KS
My hand :Ad: :Kh:

They show:

Seat 4 :As: :Qc:
SEat 7 :9h: :9c:
SB :Tc: :8c:

Flop Is :Kc: :Td: :7s:

turn and river are rags
I over estimated everyone

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Fold. More likely you're up against 88 and AJ for ex. and 88 is going to have the lion's share of the equity.


Sb wins with 10s

I thought this guy was supertight he was more like super donk . I ended up playing him heads up 20 hands he raised twice other 18 I raised and he auto folded. In the end my 10s beat his Q/7 suited all in and I win the next token.
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