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Old 01-28-2008, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

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Hero (): 1,460
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Pre-Flop: (30) :Qs :Qc dealt to Hero ()
3 folds, calls 20, raises to 40, calls 40, calls 40, calls 40, Hero raises to 240, 2 folds, raises to 1,820 and is All-In, calls 1,360 and is All-In, 2 folds, Hero ????
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Old 01-28-2008, 04:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

I think a fold is good. Your at the very least up against AK. Although it would not surprise me to see a couple of lower pocket pairs or a suited connector, or even something like KJ. I would not want to be in a coin flip this early. With QQ I guess it comes down to do you feel lucky, with anything less is a definite fold, although I think this is to.
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Old 01-28-2008, 05:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

I always question myself in this position.

I find myself folding (correctly) a lot, but I still don't feel like folding QQ here could be correct.

I would call here, because of the limit.
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Old 01-28-2008, 06:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

The action is all screwed up in my thread, but the two guys that are all-in only called a 40 bet intially. I think that makes a big difference and looking at the above HH it isn't clear.
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

Limp/AI and limp/call AI?

Idano I think this is more evidence for call.
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

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I would call here, because of the limit.
For this reason only I would call here. When this happens in the first hand or two of a low limit SNG, I'm always shocked by the crap I see. At a typical $11 game, I am folding.
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

3.40 is enough for me to call.
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

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Limp/AI and limp/call AI?

Idano I think this is more evidence for call.
I see many people at this level limping with AA or KK.

At this level, as many of you noted, you could very well be ahead here. I would guess about a 50/50 chance. If the players are that bad that they would go all-in with something you have dominated, would it not be better just to wait and out play them than to play their game and make it a crap shoot.
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Default Re: QQ with two all ins, fold to AA or KK?????

In the low level SNGs just stick QQ in every time PF and you'll come out WAY ahead.
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