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Old 09-17-2007, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default KK again $10 sng flop the nuts

Well I flop the nuts here and dont like the flush draw. I also dont really like shoving because I want to make money with such a strong hand but any bet I want to make leaves me with half my chips. Betting half my chips (about 400) gives them pretty good pot odds... and I dont like that either. I think shoving is my only move here? Thoughts?

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UTG (t1700)
MP1 (t1315)
MP2 (t1875)
CO (t3850)
Button (t1790)
Hero (t1345)
BB (t1625)

Preflop: Hero is SB with :Kc:, :Ks:.
UTG calls t50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t200, 2 folds, Hero raises to t450, 1 fold, UTG calls t400, MP2 calls t250.

Flop: (t1400) :8h:, :2h:, :Kd: (3 players)
Hero bets t895 (All-In), UTG folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t2295

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No showdown. Hero wins t2295.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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shove is fine, but it's a strong move. I actually like to bet like 500-600 in these sorts of spots. obv you are committed no matter what you have but a donk will not see it that way. Plus even supposing he's on a draw he won't have odds but it's a more attractive bet.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't really know if you should shove or split up the bet, I don't really think it's a big deal. I'd just shove, like I would with any hand I might have here.

But, I do want to mention that pot odds aren't really relevant. If you bet 400 on the flop and get called, they might be getting the right price but you act first and you're going all in regardless of the turn card. So really they are paying 895 to see both cards anyway, it's just when they pay for them. They're basically playing on credit on the flop if they call a smaller bet.
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