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Old 10-11-2007, 04:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default JJ 6 handed vs a tight player

The player is tight with a 13% VPIP and 3.4% PFR over 30 hands

Do you guys take my line and evaluate on the flop or get it in preflop?

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CO (t3350)
Hero (t3615)
SB (t1395)
BB (t2110)
UTG (t1000)
MP (t2030)

Preflop: Hero is Button with :Jh:, :Jd:.
UTG raises to t200, 2 folds, Hero calls t200, 2 folds.

Flop: (t475) :Kh:, :4h:, :5d: (2 players)
UTG bets t300, Hero ??
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The guy only has 1K chips, I think a shove pre is fine. as played either shove or fold - I guess fold because you only beat AQ and AJ anymore.
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(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
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(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yep, I push preflop.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep, I push preflop.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't take much stock in stats in these types of tournaments, there just aren't enough hand to get a good read. Better reads just come from straight observation. I agree, push preflop.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yah I realize now even if he did have a better hand just calling here was a mistake, I should of pushed him in. Here is the raw history. He even told me his hand after I asked, what a nice guy. Talked myself into a fold :(.

POKERSTARS GAME #12571732920: TOURNAMENT #63798982, $10+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2007/10/11 - 18:26:25 (ET)
Table '63798982 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: StocktonJon (3350 in chips)
Seat 2: Hultin (3615 in chips)
Seat 3: Pienda11 (1395 in chips)
Seat 4: exposnomore (2110 in chips)
Seat 6: juxed (1000 in chips)
Seat 8: JaJa-SHD (2030 in chips)
Pienda11: posts small blind 25
exposnomore: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hultin [Jh Jd]
juxed: raises 150 to 200
JaJa-SHD: folds
StocktonJon: folds
Hultin: calls 200
Pienda11: folds
exposnomore: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kh 4h 5d]
StocktonJon said, "yeah i thought he mighta had a5"
juxed: bets 300
Hultin said, "what u got lol"
juxed said, "A6"
Hultin said, ":p"
Hultin said, "lies"
Hultin: folds
exposnomore said, "flush draw"
juxed collected 475 from pot
exposnomore said, "lol"
juxed: shows [As 6d] (high card Ace)
Hultin said, "oh haha"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 475 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 4h 5d]
Seat 1: StocktonJon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hultin (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Pienda11 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: exposnomore (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: juxed collected (475)
Seat 8: JaJa-SHD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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well shit dude - if he told you then call. Telling the truth is in these days, didn't you know? I'm half serious here.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I reraise to all but one of his chips, and then fold when he reraises all in, since he obviously has you if he reraises.

...I mean, push.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Calling PF is fine but since he's short pushing is also fine. As played I guess I'd fold the flop too.
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