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Old 11-08-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default 6m $13, SB raise flop top pair

What's our plan from the flop on. Preflop comments welcome too.

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BB: 1,410
UTG: 2,085
BTN: 3,930
Hero (SB): 1,575

Pre-Flop: (150) :2s: :As: dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, Hero raises to 250, BB calls 150

Flop: (500) :6h: :Ah: :Qh: (2 Players)
Hero bets 400, BB raises to 1,160 and is All-In, Hero?
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:34 PM
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I like the raise pre. Flop bet is a little big, I'd have gone with 300. You are getting what, 7:20 or something on this call? Against a made flush, two pair or set you're 49:1 or something dumb. Against the more likely flush draws you are hurting if they have any ace with a heart, something like 4:1 or maybe worse. Against another pair with flush draw you're almost 1:1 and against unpaired flush draw it's probably 2:1 or maybe worse.

You need to look at the player here, we are at 50/100, so we should have some idea of hands he has played. If he is likely to call preflop with hands like Q7, K6, AND he is likely to be pushing you off with a naked flush draw, the odds are there to support a call.

Without that read, I'd say this is a frustrated fold. Especially with that oversized 400 flop bet.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:37 PM
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Yeah I'm really trying to justify a call here but I think you're either getting raped or only barely ahead...very frustrated fold as Ugi said.

Another option I sometimes like to do is simply complete the SB and minbet the flop. I'd do that with quite a number of hands, including some marginal ones like this.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:02 AM
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What are some of you guys' ranges from the SB here. IE raise/fold, raise/call, openshove, etc.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:39 AM
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I love the limp lead here w/ a 15BB stack. You can't really call a push w/ A2s. I pretty much only raise hands I'm willing to call w/ here unless the BB is real nitty.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:41 AM
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I love the limp lead here w/ a 15BB stack. You can't really call a push w/ A2s. I pretty much only raise hands I'm willing to call w/ here unless the BB is real nitty.
Do you limp lead whether you hit or not?
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:52 AM
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I love the limp lead here w/ a 15BB stack. You can't really call a push w/ A2s. I pretty much only raise hands I'm willing to call w/ here unless the BB is real nitty.
Do you limp lead whether you hit or not?
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:05 AM
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I called, villain had the worst case which Ugi pointed out, higher Ace with a heart kicker. I will tone down the preflop aggression here and raise probably 55+ A9+, calling a shove with AJ+. Seem okay?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:37 AM
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You can call the repush w/ at least 55+, AT+ vs most people. Lighter against some.
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I wouldn't raise this hand from the SB, but I'd bet the flop if I did limp.

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