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Old 12-07-2007, 03:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default $5 + $.50, bubble shove-bot question with AQ

Reads: BTN caller is calling/raising pretty light, and has called raises in the past with the intention (in my opinion) just to make the big bluff on the flop or turn. Here, I have a good stack, with the only person I'm really worried about being the UTG short stack. I didn't feel the BTN had a strong enough hand to call all his chips with, especially on the bubble.

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Hero (BB): 4,070
UTG: 1,480
BTN: 3,645
SB: 4,305

Pre-Flop: (180) :Qh: :Ac: dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to 300, BTN calls 300, SB folds, Hero?

Is this an auto-shove vs the BTN's calling range?
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: $5 + $.50, bubble shove-bot question with AQ

Looks like a shove with your read I think. I'm happy to get it in vs UTG, and we're far ahead of BTN's range, so I'm happy to ship it arrrrr in.
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like a shove with your read I think. I'm happy to get it in vs UTG, and we're far ahead of BTN's range, so I'm happy to ship it arrrrr in.
That's what I thought; I just wanted some more experienced players' opinions, as I'm still getting the hang of bubble bullying. Will post results later after I get a few more people's inputs.
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Default Re: $5 + $.50, bubble shove-bot question with AQ

Yeah, this is an easy shove with AQ. It becomes a little more questionable lower down the hands. If BTN really is calling light you don't like that much so perhaps won't be a big a push range as it could be.
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Actually, call ain't that bad either.
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Villain called with pocket fives. I flopped top pair and he flopped a set.
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Default Re: $5 + $.50, bubble shove-bot question with AQ

Shove seems fine especially since we have the flat caller out chipped.
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Default Re: $5 + $.50, bubble shove-bot question with AQ

Just curious here... Now that we know the outcome, would anybody not have shoved? It's basically a coin flip here, right. 4 handed I think most pairs are going to call, right? Just trying to sponge some knowledge here. :smile:

I agree with all, that it was an Insta-Shove 4 handed, but in other circumstances as well, is that a call that we want?
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Just curious here... Now that we know the outcome, would anybody not have shoved? It's basically a coin flip here, right. 4 handed I think most pairs are going to call, right? Just trying to sponge some knowledge here. :smile:

I agree with all, that it was an Insta-Shove 4 handed, but in other circumstances as well, is that a call that we want?
If we know he's calling w/ 55 it's basically like we're calling a 30bb push w/ AQ on the bubble...really bad.
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