bigloser2448

Poker Stars, $1 + $0.20 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 8 Players
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BB: 1,520
UTG: 1,620
UTG+1: 1,510
MP1: 1,420
MP2: 1,970
CO: 1,420
BTN: 2,560
Hero (SB): 1,480

Pre-Flop: (30) :Kh :Kc dealt to Hero (SB)
6 folds, Hero raises to 100, BB calls 80

Flop: (200) :Jc :3s :8s (2 Players)
Hero bets 140, BB calls 140

Here I felt if he flopped a set my goose is cooked as he'll just call and let me bet again at the turn, but I have to right? Should I have bet more? or check? I think he's calling or checking either way, right?

Turn: (480) :Jc :3s :8s [ :3d ] (2 Players)
Hero ???

I'm thinking he may have AJ and I want him to fold NOW (The pot is big enough so early on and I don't want to risk an ace coming on the river. I don't think he's got the 3 anymore. ( I hate Kings in this situation)

Obv. not much to go on here in the way of Notes. This is my first SB and I've folded every hand so far (I folded in BB with T9o after SB raised 4xBB).

I think I need to bet near the pot here, right? If called and an Ace comes on the river, what do I do? Or am I wrong here altogether?

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MewsicLovr

Hand's pretty easy to play. Keep betting, around 380-420.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

bigloser2448

WOW, I got one right!!! I bet $400.

He Called...

The River comes: :Ad

Now what??? :banghead:

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MewsicLovr

Shove IMO. Check-call is also good to catch bluffs. Don't fold, pot is too big.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

bigloser2448

I check-folded (to his all-in), No Balls!!!

Probably had him. I see it 50/50 he had it or he didn't. That ol' bankroll issue crept up on me again. I've been able to come back from tiny stacks in these tourney's before, so I figured, let's try it that way. Plus, I figured I painted an image of myself here very early that I might be able to take advantage of later. Is that stupid.

The rest of the story of this tourney, you won't believe!!!

So after that early disaster I'm waiting for some cards to play and my Fucking Internet craps out on me. I don't know how reliable broadband is in the rest of the country, but this happens to me maybe once every 3 fucking years.

When I finally get it back up (restart cable modem, router, wifi, etc), I come back to $200 UTG with the blinds about to increase to 100/200 & no cards to even gamble with.

While watching THAT hand, two big stacks tangle AA vs. KK and the lesser of the 2 stack loses with his Aces. I'm sitting 3rd in the BB (In the MONEY!!!!) with suited connectors all-in. I lose the hand, but holy crap if that's not Karma, huh.

Stupid me should have put the computer away for the night and went to bed, but I went on to lose like $4 with a combination of retarded play and one bad beat in a .01/.02 ring game. Yeah, I know I'll play stupid in a ring game and lose $4, but won't risk $1.20 on a pretty good roll of the dice! FUCK - I'm stupid! I guess I thought I was invincible after that ealier fiasco.

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sfustsh

You can fold this, you have a bunch of chips left and low blinds, and I don't imagine being ahead on the river very often.

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Carrera: fuck you

as just above it means big bet.
so again fuck off

darinvg

Check/call >>> shove. If he has an ace he's calling so we'd rather have him bluff. I'd like more discussion on whether we can call river. The big push is usually a good hand.

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darinvg: i have to get lucky sometimes

bigloser2448

Remember it's early in the tourney. A lot of people go to the end of the earth with Ace high in these little SnGs. This guy may just have been paid of for being stupid IMO. I didn't fair well after this with my short stack, so maybe I should've rolled the dice, but more opinions would be great.

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Ugignadl

Must have missed this thread. I think you need to check the river, don't call a *big* shove though. Unfortunately you don't have much of a stack left (either of you) by the river so you can't really be priced out (AFAICT). The danger hands are not A-high -> top pair BTW they are more AJ, A8 that think they had you the whole way.

In a vaccuum I'm check-calling the river with these stacks.

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MewsicLovr

If I'm doing the math correctly, the pot is about 1280 on the river, which means hero has about 800 left. A shove is about 3/4 pot, it's not exactly a "big" shove.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol