Poker Stars, $0.25 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 4 Players
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Hero (UTG): 1,240
BTN: 1,470
SB: 1,740
BB: 3,210

Pre-Flop: (30) Q :club: A :club: dealt to Hero (UTG)
Observer folds, BB calls 20, [color:red]Hero raises to 80[/color], 2 folds, SB calls 70, Observer folds, BB calls 60

Flop: (260) 9 :spade: 6 :diamond: 7 :club: (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
[color:red]SB bets 20[/color], BB calls 20, Hero ???

Here is an example-hand of my question from the General Poker thread on continuation bet, or not. Even though I didn't hit the flop except for the runner runner flush draw (wahooo), do you c-bet here? This is very early in the tourney and BB has been playing aggressive but hasn't shown many (if any) hands despite his chiplead.

Keep in mind, although not intentional, I probably have a loose reputation playing a couple of shitty hands earlier. (stupid!)

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wait, is this a full table? Action is all messed up.

Also you're using the wrong converter. Don't use 2p2. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1662

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

I can't figure out what's going on here.

I would just call the flop bet, anyway, and play my draw (back door flush and pairs).

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Carrera: fuck you

as just above it means big bet.
so again fuck off

Sorry about that. I didn't realize that (4 players thingy) until you mentioned it.
Here's the untranslated hand:

PokerStars Game #13246866706: Tournament #66630932, $0.25+$0.00 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/14 - 22:06:56 (ET)
Table '66630932 402' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: bigloser2448 (1240 in chips)
Seat 2: mares27 (1470 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: Divis (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: crystles (1740 in chips)
Seat 5: SkyBoss79 (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: BrothaBurger (1490 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: $KAJO29§ (1280 in chips)
Seat 8: RIOVIEJON (3210 in chips)
Seat 9: K&K1964 (1480 in chips)
crystles: posts small blind 10
SkyBoss79: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bigloser2448 [Qc Ac]
BrothaBurger: folds
$KAJO29§: folds
RIOVIEJON: calls 20
K&K1964: folds
bigloser2448: raises 60 to 80
mares27: folds
Divis: folds
crystles: calls 70
SkyBoss79: folds
RIOVIEJON: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [9s 6d 7c]
crystles: bets 20
RIOVIEJON: calls 20
bigloser2448: ???


I'll bet it has to do with the unrecognised characters in the users names. The translater probably choked on them.


I left the results off in case someone else (or you, too for that matter) might want to help me decide what was best to do here.

Thanks.

So C-Bet or no C-bet, that is the question.

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Call the minbet and play pokah. C-betting in mulitway pots is a trickier proposition; unless you have good equity (either a made hand or a draw) or are playing against reasonable opponents and feel like they will likely fold if you bet to represent top pair, you're better off taking the free (cheap) card, especially in a tournament setting.

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Mirage: something that lets me see other ppl's holecards

Call the small bet because of the pot size. Re-evaluate on the turn.

Yeah, that's what I did, but then (I think my mistake comes), you tell me before I tell yuo what I did after the turn. The turn brings: :5c:
SB: bets 280
Hero???

Should I fold?

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I like raising more preflop. I'm not folding to that gay bet, reevaluate turn.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

If the action is still multiway, I'd call again. Get it in if you hit on the river, otherwise fold.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol

Wow, not what I'd expect you to say. I folded.
No it wasn't multi-way. I folded,too.
I guess we'll never know.
Why multi-way only though. I just folded because I didn't "feel" another club coming. I did however consider calling because the other guy folded thinking he may NOT have been on the same (flush draw).
Interesting...

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