Middle Pair play - Page 2

Randy · 06-25-2008, 10:22 AM

I shoved the turn going with my read that he was drawing. He called with J9d and didn't hit

bigloser2448 · 06-25-2008, 10:26 AM

sfustsh · 06-25-2008, 02:33 PM

I think the flop raise is bad because if he shoves the turn you really can't justify calling him at that point. I don't necessarily think that him flat calling you on the flop is good for you. I can imagine he could do that with most of his range, regardless of the fact that the pot is almost full. I understand that draws make up a big part of his range, but so do sets and potential flopped flush. Even two pair is a strong possibility.

Moreover, imagine you're villain, and you've flopped a set of sixes. That's a flop where you basically HAVE to bet out on, and make it almost pot sized. Now imagine you flopped a flush draw: how are you going to play that? C/r flop, shove turn.

06-25-2008, 10:22 AM	#11 (permalink)
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06-25-2008, 10:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
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06-25-2008, 02:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
sfustsh Whale Hunter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rocking the micros Posts: 4,524	I think the flop raise is bad because if he shoves the turn you really can't justify calling him at that point. I don't necessarily think that him flat calling you on the flop is good for you. I can imagine he could do that with most of his range, regardless of the fact that the pot is almost full. I understand that draws make up a big part of his range, but so do sets and potential flopped flush. Even two pair is a strong possibility. Moreover, imagine you're villain, and you've flopped a set of sixes. That's a flop where you basically HAVE to bet out on, and make it almost pot sized. Now imagine you flopped a flush draw: how are you going to play that? C/r flop, shove turn. __________________ johnny350h: that was in his range yes yes

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