kicker trouble???

bigloser2448 · 07-20-2008, 09:45 AM

Hand #1565012207001651: Paris (6-max) 12207
Seat 1: hedl*** (9.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Tepl*** (7.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Whis*** (10.05 in chips)
Seat 8: bgloser244 (10.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Chip*** (16.32 in chips)
Seat 10: The*** (3.08 in chips)
Whis***: posts small blind $0.05
bgloser244: posts big blind $0.10
Dealt to bgloser244 [ 7d Ad ]
Chip***: calls
The***: calls
hedl***: folds
Tepl***: folds
Whis***: folds
bgloser244: checks
@@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Ks Ac As ]
bgloser244: checks
Chip***: checks
The***: checks
# # # TURN # # # [ Jh ]
bgloser244: Thinks it's time to bet, but his Kicker sucks. hmmm

sfustsh · 07-20-2008, 09:49 AM

What the hell are you talking about, "kicker".

You have AAAKJ. Bet for god's sake. And bet the flop too.

Mirage · 07-20-2008, 09:51 AM

You don't have a kicker. You have AAAKJ... the only non-boat hand you lose to is AQ (or QT.) Bet to charge draws and stubborn K's and J's. You chop with A2-AT, those hands are pretty unlikely but my point is that A8-AT are of no concern. Bet the flop, bet the turn... just keep on betting unless and until someone gives you reason to suspect your hand isn't good. Right now you only have a bunch of limps and checks, there's no reason to be scared here.

MewsicLovr · 07-20-2008, 11:13 AM

bet ze flop. ez game.

bigloser2448 · 07-20-2008, 11:50 AM

I bet 2/3 on the turn & got one caller (Chip). The river was a blank and I tanked. I figured there are too many hands that could bluff me off if I try a value bet. What would you do on the river there?

Bottom line, I guess is, am I willing to stack off on this hand?

sevens · 07-20-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

stack off...?

Yes.

MewsicLovr · 07-20-2008, 12:33 PM

Bet again, and, sure.

bigloser2448 · 07-20-2008, 01:03 PM

Well I pussed out and checked the river. He bet like a 1/3 pot. I called and he flipped AQ.

sfustsh · 07-20-2008, 02:19 PM

Idiot..

bigloser2448 · 07-21-2008, 06:48 AM

I hope that's aimed at the "idiot" who limped along with AQ and not the idiot who paid him off on the river? The way I saw it, I was happy to still have most of my stack after this hand.

07-20-2008, 09:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
bigloser2448 Whale Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 2,826	kicker trouble??? Hand #1565012207001651: Paris (6-max) 12207 Seat 1: hedl* (9.45 in chips) Seat 2: Tepl* (7.00 in chips) Seat 3: Whis* (10.05 in chips) Seat 8: bgloser244 (10.15 in chips) Seat 9: Chip* (16.32 in chips) Seat 10: The* (3.08 in chips) Whis: posts small blind $0.05 bgloser244: posts big blind $0.10 Dealt to bgloser244 [ 7d Ad ] Chip: calls The: calls hedl: folds Tepl: folds Whis: folds bgloser244: checks @@@ F_L_O_P @@@ [ Ks Ac As ] bgloser244: checks Chip: checks The**: checks # # # TURN # # # [ Jh ] bgloser244: Thinks it's time to bet, but his Kicker sucks. hmmm __________________ Check out Bigloser's Blog: The Genesis of a Micro-Grinder... http://www.feltpoker.com/blogs/bigloser (updated 5/25/08 )

07-20-2008, 09:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
sfustsh Whale Hunter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rocking the micros Posts: 4,522	What the hell are you talking about, "kicker". You have AAAKJ. Bet for god's sake. And bet the flop too. __________________ johnny350h: that was in his range yes yes

07-20-2008, 09:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mirage Whale Hunter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Raising donk bets Posts: 3,226	You don't have a kicker. You have AAAKJ... the only non-boat hand you lose to is AQ (or QT.) Bet to charge draws and stubborn K's and J's. You chop with A2-AT, those hands are pretty unlikely but my point is that A8-AT are of no concern. Bet the flop, bet the turn... just keep on betting unless and until someone gives you reason to suspect your hand isn't good. Right now you only have a bunch of limps and checks, there's no reason to be scared here. __________________ My Blog - Updated July 27th! johnny: poker is hand johnny: park johnny: omg Mirage: lol johnny: difficult

07-20-2008, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
bigloser2448 Whale Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 2,826	I bet 2/3 on the turn & got one caller (Chip). The river was a blank and I tanked. I figured there are too many hands that could bluff me off if I try a value bet. What would you do on the river there? Bottom line, I guess is, am I willing to stack off on this hand? __________________ Check out Bigloser's Blog: The Genesis of a Micro-Grinder... http://www.feltpoker.com/blogs/bigloser (updated 5/25/08 )

07-20-2008, 01:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigloser2448 Whale Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 2,826	Well I pussed out and checked the river. He bet like a 1/3 pot. I called and he flipped AQ. __________________ Check out Bigloser's Blog: The Genesis of a Micro-Grinder... http://www.feltpoker.com/blogs/bigloser (updated 5/25/08 )

07-20-2008, 11:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
MewsicLovr Forum Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: perpetually exhausted Posts: 6,459	bet ze flop. ez game.

07-20-2008, 12:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
MewsicLovr Forum Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: perpetually exhausted Posts: 6,459	Bet again, and, sure.

07-20-2008, 02:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
sfustsh Whale Hunter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rocking the micros Posts: 4,522	Idiot.. __________________ johnny350h: that was in his range yes yes

07-21-2008, 06:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
bigloser2448 Whale Hunter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 2,826	I hope that's aimed at the "idiot" who limped along with AQ and not the idiot who paid him off on the river? The way I saw it, I was happy to still have most of my stack after this hand. __________________ Check out Bigloser's Blog: The Genesis of a Micro-Grinder... http://www.feltpoker.com/blogs/bigloser (updated 5/25/08 )

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