puckhead23

I watched a Villain go all-in with a full 100BB stack at $10 NL on Full Tilt last night at least 3 times an orbit. He was very rarely getting called, but had nothing when he was, sucked out, and broke his victim.

Besides for having monsters, would you ever want to gamble with this guy if your stack is full? What would your requirements be?

Carrera

you say $10 NL, but this is in STT?

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puckhead23

Crap, wrong forum. Help me, mods!!!! Help me!!!!!!!!!!

Mirage

You kinda need some orbits to get an idea of his shoving frequency to figure out what a +EV calling range is. Then, it's just a matter of how much you wanna gamble. There's no ICM, payout structure, bubble factor blah blah blah to worry about in this situation. That said, if you manage to get deeper with the guy, you have to start tightening up drastically because, although calling him all-in with ATs or 44 might be +EV, you aren't going to have another shot at doubling if you are, say, 200 bbs deep with the guy... he's going to quit or bust eventually. Another consideration is that you won't be heads-up with him; you have to consider the odds that someone else still in the hand has a premium. So although you might hypothetically be able to profitably call with the top 40% of all starting hands if you wind up closing the action HU with him, you can't really go too hog wild and snap call JTs or some such because there's an opportunity cost -- the possibility that you can wait and get it in as a much bigger favorite later. (The antithesis of that is that if you wait, someone else could bust him, but if they are waiting for QQ+ or something ridiculous like that you'll probably get another shot.)

Or, just ask if he wants to play 100NL HU and take all his money

bigloser2448

Assuming that the Mods will move this thread, I'll go ahead and give my two cents just the same. Almost regardless of the particular villian, I'm almost never willing to go all-in pf with anything less than AA or KK with 100BB. I guess the only exception might be if I were last to act when it was only this shoving fool (already all-in) and nobody was going to follow me preflop. Then, I would probably loosen up considerably. But that situation is very rare. If possible I try to get as close to his right as possible to allow for that possibility.

I had a BFZ post on a similar subject (although only $4NL) where the maniac was all-in with EVERYTHING pf. I took a shot at him with AK once feeling pretty condfident that I would be HU against him. I was, but he ended up flushing his 96s anyway.

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Tysun

This seems like a good thread to ask it, but does any one know of any software where you can type in a certain percentage, for instance 30% and it would give the top 30% of hands. You could then use that to calculate whether or not it is EV against your starting hand. I know Poker Stove is similar to this, but with that you have to manually select the opponents starting hands.

A think like Mirage said a few factors need to be considered here when deciding when to call. I am assuming this is a full table and not six-max which would increase his all-in frequency quite a bit from roughly 33% to 50%. Where you are in position relative to the villain will play a part because as Mirage mentioned you have to take other peoples actions into consideration. In this situation I am probably willing to call all-in 66+, A9+ if I know that I'll be heads up against my opponent. I think personally a situation like this comes down to how much are you willing to gamble.

Carrera

Surely you've heard of poker stove?

click on player to select his cards, then use pre-flop tab.

there is even a slider at the bottom

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sfustsh

If he's really pushing every hand, or even pushing like every other hand, I'm looking for about K7+ to call.

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bigloser2448

NS HU, but what if others are left to act?

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sfustsh

Doesn't make much difference. People play too tight. They aren't calling with less than, like, jacks. If they get JJ+, so be it, but the chances that 3 players left to act, one of them will have JJ+, is ~5%.

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