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Old 03-06-2008, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hand #1432011766000250: Munich 11766
Seat 1: Fishingnj (11.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Totues (25.65 in chips)
Seat 3: IrishKennedy (28.70 in chips)
Seat 4: coin (38.00 in chips)
Seat 5: dmskioskred (15.40 in chips)
Seat 6: HL2JS (14.75 in chips)
Seat 7: golden99 (4.80 in chips)
Seat 8: EasyEDawg (18.65 in chips)
Seat 9: Dodongo (34.95 in chips)
Seat 10: ...Dikii... (6.00 in chips)
Totues: posts small blind $0.10
IrishKennedy: posts big blind $0.20
Dealt to Dodongo [ Td Kd ]
coin: calls
dmskioskred: folds
HL2JS: calls
golden99: folds
EasyEDawg: folds
Dodongo: calls
Fishingnj: calls
Totues: folds
IrishKennedy: checks
### F L O P ### [ Qd 6d 5d ]
IrishKennedy: bets $0.70
coin: calls
HL2JS: calls
Dodongo: calls
Fishingnj: folds
*** TURN *** [ 2s ]
IrishKennedy: bets $2
coin: calls
HL2JS: folds
Dodongo: raises to $6
IrishKennedy: folds
coin: raises to $21.90
Dodongo: is all in 28.0500
coin: calls
*** RIVER *** [ Jc ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
coin wins $71 with Flush, Ace high
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes. You were playing suited-semiconnectors to hit a straight or flush, and you hit the flush. Second nuts and you get action. It's just a standard cooler, no big deal. NH.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Kind of thought this too. The problem is that this had happened twice in two days. It's kind of disconcerning for me.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think I'd make it $1 pf if I was going to play it at all. (I only say that cause with two limpers (without reads) you may already be dominated since it's "in" to limp with monsters these days.) I just hate limping in with anything from anywhere. The biggest problem here is you're up against 5 players on the flop. With the nut draw, this might be great on an (eventually) unparied board, but here, there's just too many chances to let someone have something like A4s-A8s. What was "coin's" other card btw?

If you open raise & get just one caller, you're much less likely to be beat 'cause A-rag-suited is more likely to fold pf.

I don't think I throw another $6+ at this hand after he came over the top on the turn. It'd be a really tough fold, but if I didn't see the guy make more than one mistake in the past, I think I'd let it go. (I hope)

Just my inexperienced opinion.

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Old 03-07-2008, 08:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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nah, it's only a king high flush, I wouldn't put another dollar in the pot when he bets the turn because he's repping the A high flush with so many people in.

Dude, what do you want to hear?
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Jamool,
Don't take any of this positive criticism personal. I've posted hands here that I would have swore that I'd play the same way over and over because it just seemed that right! only to be righfully shown that I was very clueless.

Post more hands, review you own hands as well. It's a great way to improve your play. I think I mentioned I've been reading that Miller/Sklanksy book NLHE T&P, I've just read a chapter or two on these exact types of hands and how you can get killed on them if you play them the way that you are. Stick with it dude, and Post more hands.

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Old 03-07-2008, 01:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think I'd make it $1 pf if I was going to play it at all. (I only say that cause with two limpers (without reads) you may already be dominated since it's "in" to limp with monsters these days.) I just hate limping in with anything from anywhere. The biggest problem here is you're up against 5 players on the flop. With the nut draw, this might be great on an (eventually) unparied board, but here, there's just too many chances to let someone have something like A4s-A8s. What was "coin's" other card btw?

If you open raise & get just one caller, you're much less likely to be beat 'cause A-rag-suited is more likely to fold.

I don't think I throw another $6+ at this hand after he came over the top on the turn. It'd be a really tough fold, but if I didn't see the guy make more than one mistake in the past, I think I'd let it go. (I hope)

Just my inexperienced opinion.
People love to call raises with Axs these days.

Also, playing SCs requires you to play at least better than average postflop; meaning, with KTs, you aren't going to felt if you pair your K or T. If I'm playing SCs, I'm not really worried about being dominated because that's not why I'm playing them.
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Neh, Too much money for me to call unless I've seen villain screw up in a spot like this before. I'm not calling or shoving that turn re-raise without the nuts unless I have a really good read that the villain is a complete idiot. He didn't bet the flop as if he was drawing to a flush. He had a made hand already.

When you say people "love calling raises with Axs these days", that may be right, but these are the poeple we make the money from in the long run. Against better players, we'll win more money over time by raising it preflop instead of limping and slowplaying.

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nah, it's only a king high flush, I wouldn't put another dollar in the pot when he bets the turn because he's repping the A high flush with so many people in.

Dude, what do you want to hear?

There was only three people in?

My question is if anyone here would actually fold this. I mean he's clearly got a flush (or MAYBE a set, I've seen people play them like this, but I doubt it). So A-high is the only one that makes sense, or are the odds of him doing this with lower suited connectors too high???

BL already said it was inconceivable that he doesn't have the A-high flush so if I call here than that means maybe I have a leak in my game?? Just wondering what others would do in this situation...


by the way it didn't show but he had A4

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All I know is, if you want to work on your game, beating this hand to death is barking up the wrong tree.
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