Eruu

I had planned to start cheaper, play tight and build my baby online roll. I just can't take the smaller stakes seriously and I end up playing too loose and losing. So I started watching this table and it was juicy. So I take a shot and buy in for almost half of my swingy online roll. Then I get these two hands almost back to back.

PokerStars Game #10326482997: 7 Card Stud Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/06/07 - 23:58:02 (ET)
Table 'Liberatrix' 8-max
Seat 1: OnADraw216 ($53.05 in chips)
Seat 2: grb137 ($32.60 in chips)
Seat 3: dudendink ($29.90 in chips)
Seat 4: xsbfd ($96.20 in chips)
Seat 5: chippawafred ($30.20 in chips)
Seat 6: sportsbarney ($46.80 in chips)
Seat 7: Eruu ($39.60 in chips)
Seat 8: spikenj ($10.60 in chips)
OnADraw216: posts the ante $0.10
grb137: posts the ante $0.10
dudendink: posts the ante $0.10
xsbfd: posts the ante $0.10
chippawafred: posts the ante $0.10
sportsbarney: posts the ante $0.10
Eruu: posts the ante $0.10
spikenj: posts the ante $0.10
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Ad:]
Dealt to grb137 [:4s:]
Dealt to dudendink [:Kd:]
Dealt to xsbfd [:Th:]
Dealt to chippawafred [:5s:]
Dealt to sportsbarney [:Kc:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Qc: :Qd: :4c:]
Dealt to spikenj [:Qh:]
Eruu: bets $1
spikenj: folds
OnADraw216: raises $1 to $2
grb137: folds
dudendink: folds
xsbfd: calls $2
chippawafred: folds
sportsbarney: calls $2
Eruu: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Ad:] [:2d:]
Dealt to xsbfd [:Th:] [:Qs:]
Dealt to sportsbarney [:Kc:] [:Jd:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Qc: :Qd: :4c:] [:Js:]
OnADraw216: bets $1
xsbfd: calls $1
sportsbarney: calls $1
Eruu: calls $1
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Ad: :2d:] [:8c:]
Dealt to xsbfd [:Th: :Qs:] [:Tc:]
Dealt to sportsbarney [:Kc: :Jd:] [:Jc:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Qc: :Qd: :4c: :Js:] [:4h:]
sportsbarney: bets $2
Eruu: raises $2 to $4
OnADraw216: raises $2 to $6
xsbfd: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
sportsbarney: calls $6
Eruu: calls $4
OnADraw216: calls $2
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Ad: :2d: :8c:] [:8s:]
Dealt to xsbfd [:Th: :Qs: :Tc:] [:Jh:]
Dealt to sportsbarney [:Kc: :Jd: :Jc:] [:7c:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Qc: :Qd: :4c: :Js: :4h:] [:5h:]
sportsbarney: bets $2
Eruu: calls $2
OnADraw216: raises $2 to $4
xsbfd: calls $4
sportsbarney: calls $2
Eruu: calls $2
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Eruu [:Qc: :Qd: :4c: :Js: :4h: :5h:] [:Ac:]
sportsbarney: checks
dudendink said, "just dids 11 hours at the bluesfest im burntout"
Eruu: checks
OnADraw216: bets $2
xsbfd: calls $2
sportsbarney: calls $2
Eruu: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OnADraw216: shows [:8d: :4d: :Ad: :2d: :8c: :8s: :Td:] (a flush, Ace high)
xsbfd: mucks hand
sportsbarney: mucks hand
Eruu: mucks hand
OnADraw216 collected $67.80 from pot
OnADraw216 said, "awww"
OnADraw216 said, "that feels"
OnADraw216 said, "soooooo good"

:upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:

And then . . .

PokerStars Game #10326513805: 7 Card Stud Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/06/08 - 00:00:19 (ET)
Table 'Liberatrix' 8-max
Seat 1: OnADraw216 ($103.75 in chips)
Seat 2: grb137 ($32.50 in chips)
Seat 3: dudendink ($29.80 in chips)
Seat 4: xsbfd ($79.10 in chips)
Seat 5: chippawafred ($30.10 in chips)
Seat 6: sportsbarney ($29.70 in chips)
Seat 7: Eruu ($22.50 in chips)
Seat 8: spikenj ($10.50 in chips)
OnADraw216: posts the ante $0.10
grb137: posts the ante $0.10
dudendink: posts the ante $0.10
xsbfd: posts the ante $0.10
OnADraw216 said, "sooooo"
chippawafred: posts the ante $0.10
sportsbarney: posts the ante $0.10
Eruu: posts the ante $0.10
OnADraw216 said, "good"
spikenj: posts the ante $0.10
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Js:]
Dealt to grb137 [:Qd:]
Dealt to dudendink [:Ks:]
Dealt to xsbfd [:5h:]
Dealt to chippawafred [:6h:]
Dealt to sportsbarney [:2c:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Kc: :Ad: :Tc:]
Dealt to spikenj [:7s:]
sportsbarney: brings in for $0.50
Eruu: calls $0.50
spikenj: calls $0.50
OnADraw216: raises $0.50 to $1
grb137: folds
dudendink: folds
xsbfd: calls $1
chippawafred: calls $1
sportsbarney: folds
Eruu: calls $0.50
spikenj: calls $0.50
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Js:] [:3c:]
Dealt to xsbfd [:5h:] [:4d:]
Dealt to chippawafred [:6h:] [:9s:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Kc: :Ad: :Tc:] [:Td:]
Dealt to spikenj [:7s:] [:Th:]
Pair on board - a double bet is allowed
dudendink said, "oh good night 4 me ; ))"
dudendink said, "hn"
Eruu: bets $2
spikenj: folds
OnADraw216: raises $2 to $4
xsbfd: folds
chippawafred: calls $4
Eruu: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Js: :3c:] [:Ts:]
Dealt to chippawafred [:6h: :9s:] [:3h:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Kc: :Ad: :Tc: :Td:] [:Kh:]
xsbfd is sitting out
dudendink said, "nh"
Eruu: bets $2
OnADraw216: raises $2 to $4
chippawafred: calls $4
Eruu: raises $2 to $6
OnADraw216: calls $2
chippawafred: calls $2
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to OnADraw216 [:Js: :3c: :Ts:] [:5d:]
Dealt to chippawafred [:6h: :9s: :3h:] [:Ac:]
Dealt to Eruu [:Kc: :Ad: :Tc: :Td: :Kh:] [:6s:]
Eruu: bets $2
OnADraw216: calls $2
chippawafred: calls $2
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Eruu [:Kc: :Ad: :Tc: :Td: :Kh: :6s:] [:4h:]
xsbfd leaves the table
Eruu: bets $2
OnADraw216: folds
chippawafred: raises $2 to $4
Eruu: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chippawafred: shows [:9h: :2h: :6h: :9s: :3h: :Ac: :Qh:] (a flush, Queen high)
Eruu: mucks hand
chippawafred collected $49.30 from pot
OnADraw216 said, "lol" and I want to go Merv on this fucker

I could have folded the second hand preflop, but other than that do you guys see any big mistakes? I'd put this in BBV but we need more posts here anyhow.

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Bernie Wayne - You stick with me kid. In a few years you'll be wearing diamonds big as horse turds and farting through silk.

hiho

Stud is hard to follow in this format, too many cards

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"99% of the players are cake suck at poker" Randy 4/15/08

sfustsh

First hand, you should SERIOUSLY consider NOT making the huge overcall on 4th street. At this point you know that both other queens have been dealt, and another jack.

Not to mention, the :Ad: is raising 3rd street (incorrectly, at a table this loose, I might add) and betting out on 4th when he catches well (the :2d: is a good card for him).

You have very little equity, OnADraw216 is repping a pair of aces, and sportsbarney's overcall can easily mean a pair of scared kings. Since you'll often need a full house to win this hand and you can't make queens full, you should fold. If not on 4th street, then 5th street where the betting doubles AND sportsbarney makes another jack. At that point, if he had a pair of kings, he's now bested your queens up.

Still, ridiculous aggression by OnADraw216.

Second hand, raise / call / fold are all pretty neutral to me. Farther towards the bring in and the more I favor raising just to steal.

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johnny350h: that was in his range yes yes

Eruu

I agree. I think there is a converter on 2+2. I need to find that.

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Bernie Wayne - You stick with me kid. In a few years you'll be wearing diamonds big as horse turds and farting through silk.

Eruu

I am trying to regain my former style in this game. I won't argue with any of this but my basic plan was this: play exactly like live full ring limit holdem except.

1. Fold preflop a little more often (than my normal loose style)
2. After 4th, call and valuebet a little more often than you'd think.
3. Bluff less often or not at all.

It used to work but my interpretation of those rules may have changed a bit. I plan to find out.

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Bernie Wayne - You stick with me kid. In a few years you'll be wearing diamonds big as horse turds and farting through silk.

mervhage

I agree, very douchey.

Anyhow, on the first hand, I can find a fold as early as 4th street. I don't care to get involved with Queens, when a Queen is showing. When the 8 open pairs on the guy who repped Aces to begin with (onadraw), then I'm definitely getting out of the way. You're down to 3 outs. The problem with Stud is getting sucked in, that's what makes the majority of these guys so bad.

Second hand, I don't play this hand. I don't see what the 'lol' is for, like I said, just a douche bag. Anyhow, as played after 4th street, it looks fine to me.