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Old 07-25-2007, 01:49 PM
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Stage #717257461: Holdem Normal $3/$6 - 2007-07-25 14:50:11 (ET)
Table: CHESS DR (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - PLANOMAN ($256 in chips)
Seat 3 - HATBORO ($57.51 in chips)
Seat 4 - CARRERA911 ($150 in chips)
Seat 5 - HILTONSISTER ($259 in chips)
Seat 7 - DWAYNE1 ($236 in chips)
Seat 8 - WILLYHAVLAT ($55.50 in chips)
Seat 9 - TSPINELLA ($451.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - LADYTLW ($30 in chips)
HATBORO - Posts small blind $2
CARRERA911 - Posts big blind $3
LADYTLW - Posts $3
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CARRERA911 [:Qd: :Qs:]
HILTONSISTER - Folds
DWAYNE1 - Folds
WILLYHAVLAT - Calls $3
TSPINELLA - Folds
LADYTLW - Checks
PLANOMAN - Raises $6 to $6
HATBORO - Folds
CARRERA911 - Raises $6 to $9
WILLYHAVLAT - Calls $6
LADYTLW - Folds
PLANOMAN - Calls $3
*** FLOP *** [:6d: :3s: :2s:]
CARRERA911 - Bets $3
WILLYHAVLAT - Calls $3
PLANOMAN - Raises $6 to $6
CARRERA911 - Calls $3
WILLYHAVLAT - Calls $3
*** TURN *** [:6d: :3s: :2s:] [:4c:]
CARRERA911 - Checks
WILLYHAVLAT - Checks
PLANOMAN - Checks
*** RIVER *** [:6d: :3s: :2s: :4c:] [:Kh:]
CARRERA911 - Checks
WILLYHAVLAT - Bets $6
PLANOMAN - Calls $6
CARRERA911 - ?
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:17 PM
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Call? What's the problem? Pot is huge, it would be a disaster to fold the best hand.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:22 PM
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Call obv?

10 to 1 odds.

I'd expect planoman to turn over JJ or similar, or possibly :As::Ks:

I can't really figure out what willyhavlat has, looks like he's got 45 honestly.

Anyway it doesn't really matter what they have at this point. You've got to call, given the price, and I see no value in raising.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:35 PM
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Its only one bet why not call and see it right?
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:37 AM
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In all honesty, I could find a fold there. That's a terrible place to overcall unless somebody in the pot is a complete moron.

I think the real problem is the flop. A raise there may have chased WILLYHAVLAT out of the pot. If your thinking was that he's a calling station and wasn't folding no matter what, that's fine. However, it's uncommon to find someone who will call that much action and then take pot shots on the river. ie, if you didn't drive him out because he calls everything then you often want to fold to the sudden bet later on.

PS - If we're guessing I'll take WILLY with a suited king and PLANO with a pair of nines.
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:53 AM
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Given the action so far, and not wanting to be giving away free bets, I did fold here.

As it turns out, I had WAY the best hand :(

I'll wait a bit more before posting their actual hands if you want to guess some more.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:11 AM
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Suited ace and 67?
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I can really see like A6 here or something similar from Planoman and a random bluff from willy. I think folding is terrible, but I am a losing player at limit so whatever.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:59 PM
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close. willy had the A6o, plano had AJo.

I only fold because plano called.

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