$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 04, 06:54:53 ET 2007
Table Table 125405 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: SIMPLY_No_1 ( $837.70 USD )
Seat 3: TimeoDanaos ( $165.90 USD )
Seat 4: The_Lingster ( $1,271.05 USD )
Seat 6: mannemer2 ( $911.42 USD )
Seat 8: SideshowMel9 ( $1,043.18 USD )
Seat 9: Soliga ( $934.90 USD )
Seat 10: Hero ( $374 USD )
Seat 7: HardHit85 ( $486 USD )
Seat 5: DonVCor ( $125.10 USD )
Seat 1: S__H__A__R__K ( $179 USD )
SideshowMel9 posts small blind [$2 USD].
Soliga posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ :Ks: :As: ]
Hero raises [$13 USD]
S__H__A__R__K folds.
TimeoDanaos calls [$13 USD]
The_Lingster folds.
DonVCor calls [$13 USD]
mannemer2 calls [$13 USD]
HardHit85 folds.
SideshowMel9 folds.
Soliga folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ :6d:, :Ac:, :Tc: ]
Hero bets [$50 USD]
TimeoDanaos folds.
DonVCor folds.
mannemer2 calls [$50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ :7c: ]

villain is over 50% PF, but i have less than 50 hands on him.

I'm representing the A potting the flop. certainly not the flush draw.

Now that it came, what do I do?

he called in position getting goods odds i guess, so he could have a wide range. maybe he called on the flop with flush draw and gutshot?

what do you do here?

__________________
Attempting to blog at Carrera's Felt Poker blog (updated 16-5)

Bet when the moon is full. Check call when you are feeling hungry. Check fold on Thursdays.

I like a 1/2 or even 2/3 pot bet here, fold to a raise. If called check and call on a non-club river depending on his tendency to bet river. I think his range is a lot of suited junk that got there but also a bunch of TPWK, MPWK kind of junk so I think there's value in a bet.

__________________
My Blog - Updated September 1st!

MewsicLovr: can you think of other poker tools that would be badass?
Mirage: something that lets me see other ppl's holecards

Let's assume first and foremost that you want a sensible reply.

So you have 50 hands on him. The real question is, does he have a worse ace, would he call preflop with A7, and then play the flop with a call? How does he play his draws? In a vaccuum, I'm betting less on the flop.

Now at NL400 you are getting more serious, and this is closer to the level I normally play live (if you follow the online->live rule); thus I'd say that mannemer2 is loose aggressive and perhaps bad. Still I have trouble putting him on an ace with the straight call. So he could have some kind of draw, or something stronger than just the ace. I really have a lot of trouble putting this kind of player at this level on something that you can get to a showdown with.

Further, this kind of player, if profitable, is usually that way due to people allowing them to exploit their poor image. For example, if he calls with a flush draw, something like :3c: :4c:, it is not really a very good move. However if he can get your stack it becomes a much better (but still -EV) proposition.

So, you made him pay on the flop. It's time not to give in to the dance and check the turn.

__________________
I have been blogging. Last updated April 29th. http://www.feltpoker.com/blogs/ugignadl/

How much would you bet on the flop?

__________________
Attempting to blog at Carrera's Felt Poker blog (updated 16-5)

Is this on PS? Good to see you that you moved to 400NL.

I check/call this flop. Betting the pot is the worst thing you can do. OOP, betting into two people with a draw heavy board. 66 and TT are easily the possible holdings of your opponents and you are simply building up the reverse-implied odds. Regarding 50% PFR, some of these guys are very good at post-flop and tend to play loose. They sure have leaks, but don't look at PF stats and play badly against them. At lower levels, bad PF player, usually is a bad post-flop player. Not so at 400NL and above.

As played, check/fold the flop.

If you just made the switch to 400NL, one of the things (related to this hand) you have to learn is, when to/not to c-bet? The board in this hand is clearly a no c-bet board. Some might even float on this board (I usually do), as it is pretty easy to take away the hand from you with so many scare cards to use for bluffing.

How can he check call and check fold the flop? You mean check fold the turn?

Also 400NL is hardly new to carrera...

__________________
I have been blogging. Last updated April 29th. http://www.feltpoker.com/blogs/ugignadl/

I meant check/call the flop and check/fold turn depending on the turn card. Most probably, people are going to check it down unless they have a strong hand like TT, as this is a wet board.

I'm not sure how this helps. 66 and TT are always possible holdings, even heads up.

Don't you want to bet to avoid draws rather than check because there is a possible draw?

__________________
Attempting to blog at Carrera's Felt Poker blog (updated 16-5)

Your 3 choices are about as good as each other. Whatever you do you're about to make a big mistake when you're wrong, either by giving up with the winning hand, putting in a big bet while drawing dead, or getting bluffed out on the river or paying him off. So just pick one and see what happens.

I really wish people would stop saying "well this is not nl200 you know, they play much better post flop/pre flop here" coz it's bullshit. 50vpip donk is the same at 1/2 as he is at 5/10. Only difference is he's got more to lose.

And if you're gonna check the flop then just fold to a bet and ease yourself of any further decisions, since it will only get harder from there and you're already making mistakes.