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Old 10-21-2007, 06:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So lately, I've been wondering if I totally suck, or am just going through a bad period.

Given these hands, at least I can get lucky sometimes, so I probably just suck

I got involved with the same guy several times, and I think he had enough.

First hand, river raise probably too big.

Anyone think the second hand is too aggressive?

Third, wow, sometimes the river doesn't kill me.

STAGE #796029431: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $2 - 2007-10-21 08:03:05 (ET)
Table: JUPITER DR (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - CARRERA911 ($400 in chips)
Seat 1 - DUNNIE147 ($258.05 in chips)
Seat 2 - AYVODDDD3284 ($352.59 in chips)
Seat 3 - LC266167 ($70.70 in chips)
Seat 4 - THATSMYW0RD ($195.50 in chips)
Seat 5 - LOSTJAMESVAN ($346.50 in chips)
DUNNIE147 - Posts small blind $1
AYVODDDD3284 - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CARRERA911 [:Js: :Jc:]
LC266167 - Calls $2
THATSMYW0RD - Folds
LOSTJAMESVAN - Raises $15 to $15
CARRERA911 - Calls $15
DUNNIE147 - Folds
AYVODDDD3284 - Folds
LC266167 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [:Ad: :Kh: :Tc:]
LOSTJAMESVAN - Checks
CARRERA911 - Bets $16
LOSTJAMESVAN - Calls $16
*** TURN *** [:Ad: :Kh: :Tc:] [:4d:]
LOSTJAMESVAN - Checks
CARRERA911 - Checks
*** RIVER *** [:Ad: :Kh: :Tc: :4d:] [:Qs:]
LOSTJAMESVAN - Bets $55
CARRERA911 - Raises $280 to $280
LOSTJAMESVAN - Folds
CARRERA911 - returned ($225) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CARRERA911 - Does not show
CARRERA911 Collects $173.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($177) | Rake ($3) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Seat 1: DUNNIE147 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: AYVODDDD3284 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: LC266167 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: THATSMYW0RD Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: LOSTJAMESVAN Folded on the RIVER
Seat 6: CARRERA911 (dealer) collected Total ($173.50) HI:($173.50) [Does not show]



STAGE #796032376: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $2 - 2007-10-21 08:11:23 (ET)
Table: JUPITER DR (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - THATSMYW0RD ($147.50 in chips)
Seat 5 - LOSTJAMESVAN ($372.15 in chips)
Seat 6 - CARRERA911 ($458.05 in chips)
Seat 1 - DUNNIE147 ($211.30 in chips)
Seat 3 - LC266167 ($48.70 in chips)
LOSTJAMESVAN - Posts small blind $1
CARRERA911 - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CARRERA911 [:8h: :8c:]
DUNNIE147 - Folds
LC266167 - Folds
THATSMYW0RD - Folds
LOSTJAMESVAN - Calls $1
CARRERA911 - Raises $6 to $8
LOSTJAMESVAN - Calls $6
*** FLOP *** [:8d: :6s: :5c:]
LOSTJAMESVAN - Bets $13
CARRERA911 - Raises $30 to $30
LOSTJAMESVAN - Raises $75 to $88
CARRERA911 - Raises $406 to $436
LOSTJAMESVAN - Folds
CARRERA911 - returned ($34 : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CARRERA911 - Does not show
CARRERA911 Collects $188.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($192) | Rake ($3) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Seat 1: DUNNIE147 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: LC266167 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: THATSMYW0RD (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: LOSTJAMESVAN (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 6: CARRERA911 (big blind) collected Total ($188.50) HI:($188.50) [Does not show]





STAGE #796034407: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $2 - 2007-10-21 08:16:54 (ET)
Table: JUPITER DR (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - CARRERA911 ($582.85 in chips)
Seat 1 - DUNNIE147 ($37.30 in chips)
Seat 2 - ACE1S ($397 in chips)
Seat 3 - LC266167 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 4 - THATSMYW0RD ($302.50 in chips)
Seat 5 - LOSTJAMESVAN ($264.65 in chips)
DUNNIE147 - Posts small blind $1
ACE1S - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CARRERA911 [:Kh: :Kc:]
LC266167 - Folds
THATSMYW0RD - Folds
LOSTJAMESVAN - Raises $9 to $9
CARRERA911 - Raises $21 to $21
DUNNIE147 - All-In(Raise) $36.30 to $37.30
ACE1S - Folds
LOSTJAMESVAN - All-In(Raise) $255.65 to $264.65
CARRERA911 - Calls $243.65
*** FLOP *** [:Tc: :Kd: :5c:]
*** TURN *** [:Tc: :Kd: :5c:] [:Qd:]
*** RIVER *** [:Tc: :Kd: :5c: :Qd:] [:Qc:]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DUNNIE147 - Shows [:9c: :8c:] (Flush, queen high)
LOSTJAMESVAN - Shows [:6c: :6d:] (Two Pair, queens and sixes)
CARRERA911 - Shows [:Kh: :Kc:] (Full house, kings full of queens)
CARRERA911 Collects $452.31 from side pot-1
CARRERA911 Collects $112.79 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($568.60:$113.90,$454.70) | Rake ($3:$0.61,$2.39) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50:$0.50,$0)
Seat 1: DUNNIE147 (small blind) HI:lost with Flush, queen high [9c 8c - B:Qc,B:10c,P:9c,P:8c,B:5c]
Seat 2: ACE1S (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: LC266167 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: THATSMYW0RD Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: LOSTJAMESVAN HI:lost with Two Pair, queens and sixes [6c 6d - B:Qd,B:Qc,P:6d,P:6c,B:Kd]
Seat 6: CARRERA911 (dealer) won Total ($565.10) HI:($565.10) with Full house, kings full of queens [Kh Kc - P:Kh,B:Kd,P:Kc,B:Qd,B:Qc]
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First and third, nh, second I raise less on the flop. Go $240 or $250 at the most. I know, you think, we mayaswell just stick it in. Still go $250 max there .
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Are these hands on Absolute? Also very very nice. :)
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yes, absolute
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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First hand: you have to raise smaller for better value. I know I push in the heat of the moment, but think about what he can call with.
Second hand: Looks fine, though effective stacks are 200BBs, so a smaller raise as Ugi suggested is not bad.
Third hand: Perfect!
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't know how much value there is in hand 1 on the river. I'd probably miraise. Villain just can't stack off without a straight and then you'd be paying extra rake.

Think about 3 bet preflop?

Second hand, I would flat the 3 bet and let him take the lead on the turn.

Third hand, pretty standard I'd think.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Based on villains play in the other 2 hands it's my opinion that you're going to have a tough time overbetting the flop with your initial raise but I'd probably go about $200 on the reraise because I want him to call or push. He seems to want to pay to see cards but pushing shuts him down.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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everything is back to normal...

STAGE #797155243: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $2 - 2007-10-22 15:53:31 (ET)
Table: CICERO (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - KFLYDENT ($218.10 in chips)
Seat 5 - ALWAYZSTUCK ($370 in chips)
Seat 6 - CARRERA911 ($268.35 in chips)
Seat 1 - MESON83 ($557.35 in chips)
Seat 2 - MONIHOG ($234.70 in chips)
Seat 3 - ODDSCALC ($371.85 in chips)
ALWAYZSTUCK - Posts small blind $1
CARRERA911 - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CARRERA911 [:Qs: :Qd:]
MESON83 - Folds
MONIHOG - Folds
ODDSCALC - Raises $4 to $4
KFLYDENT - Calls $4
ALWAYZSTUCK - Calls $3
CARRERA911 - Raises $16 to $18
ODDSCALC - Folds
KFLYDENT - Calls $14
ALWAYZSTUCK - Folds
*** FLOP *** [:2d: :9c: :7h:]
CARRERA911 - Bets $25
KFLYDENT - Calls $25
*** TURN *** [:2d: :9c: :7h:] [:9d:]
CARRERA911 - Bets $70
KFLYDENT - All-In(Raise) $175.10 to $175.10
CARRERA911 - Calls $105.10
*** RIVER *** [:2d: :9c: :7h: :9d:] [:7s:]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KFLYDENT - Shows [:4d: :7d:] (Full house, sevens full of nines)
CARRERA911 - Shows [:Qs: :Qd:] (Two Pair, queens and nines)
KFLYDENT Collects $440.70 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($444.20) | Rake ($3) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Seat 1: MESON83 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: MONIHOG Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: ODDSCALC Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: KFLYDENT (dealer) won Total ($440.70) All-In HI:($440.70) with Full house, sevens full of nines [4d 7d - B:7s,B:7h,P:7d,B:9d,B:9c]
Seat 5: ALWAYZSTUCK (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: CARRERA911 (big blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, queens and nines [Qs Qd - P:Qs,P:Qd,B:9d,B:9c,B:7h]


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this set off a nice spiral that ended when another fucker hits his boat starting from 2 pair against my set.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh order is restored.
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STAGE #797155243: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $2 - 2007-10-22 15:53:31 (ET)
Table: CICERO (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - KFLYDENT ($218.10 in chips)
Seat 5 - ALWAYZSTUCK ($370 in chips)
Seat 6 - CARRERA911 ($268.35 in chips)
Seat 1 - MESON83 ($557.35 in chips)
Seat 2 - MONIHOG ($234.70 in chips)
Seat 3 - ODDSCALC ($371.85 in chips)
ALWAYZSTUCK - Posts small blind $1
CARRERA911 - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CARRERA911 [:Qs: :Qd:]
MESON83 - Folds
MONIHOG - Folds
ODDSCALC - Raises $4 to $4
KFLYDENT - Calls $4
ALWAYZSTUCK - Calls $3
CARRERA911 - Raises $16 to $18
ODDSCALC - Folds
KFLYDENT - Calls $14
ALWAYZSTUCK - Folds
*** FLOP *** [:2d: :9c: :7h:]
CARRERA911 - Bets $25
KFLYDENT - Calls $25
*** TURN *** [:2d: :9c: :7h:] [:9d:]
CARRERA911 - Bets $70
KFLYDENT - All-In(Raise) $175.10 to $175.10
CARRERA911 - Calls $105.10
*** RIVER *** [:2d: :9c: :7h: :9d:] [:7s:]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KFLYDENT - Shows [:4d: :7d:] (Full house, sevens full of nines)
CARRERA911 - Shows [:Qs: :Qd:] (Two Pair, queens and nines)
KFLYDENT Collects $440.70 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($444.20) | Rake ($3) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Seat 1: MESON83 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: MONIHOG Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: ODDSCALC Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: KFLYDENT (dealer) won Total ($440.70) All-In HI:($440.70) with Full house, sevens full of nines [4d 7d - B:7s,B:7h,P:7d,B:9d,B:9c]
Seat 5: ALWAYZSTUCK (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: CARRERA911 (big blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, queens and nines [Qs Qd - P:Qs,P:Qd,B:9d,B:9c,B:7h]


belongs in bfz, but i don't care.

fucking hate poker.

this set off a nice spiral that ended when another fucker hits his boat starting from 2 pair against my set.
Please use HH converter. Those fancy card images are useless, if I can't tell what the pot size is on each street.

You set it up nicely for him on the turn with your bet. If you bet, you have to call and pray. Try check/raising or pushing on the turn some times. As played, I prefer a check/raise.
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