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Old 07-25-2007, 10:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default PL200: Easy KK Fold?

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Table is five handed,

I'm on button with KK and raise to 5.

Big blind calls. Standard player, maybe looser and more passive than normal.

Flop comes AA2. I think it was rainbow.

Action goes check, bet 6, nearly insta-raise to 12, raise to 36, insta-raise to 60,

I have about $60 left, I type "lol" in chat and fold. There's really no way the guy has QQ here right? No way the guy is completely bluffing?
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't like reraising the flop unless you plan on folding to a repop.

He doesn't have anything less than an ace here, and I don't think he'd be so aggressive with a weaker ace than AK really.

I like fold.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There is a way, but it is unlikely. You're getting a pretty good price but I still think the correct move is to fold.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Check flop? You can only value bet him a couple of streets if he's really passive and likes to showdown. As played it's a v easy fold.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Alright, good to know everyone else folds this too. I hate laying down hands in cash games but it seemed to be an obvious hand where he'd show up with an Ace.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think this hand is played poorly. You should have called the flop min-raise and check/folded the turn or river, depending on the action. Checking the flop is another option as well. Re-raising seems to be a bad move.
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Personally I don't think the fourth bet from villain was a very good idea either. I can't think of a hand that would benefit from making 4 bets on the flop. If he had any less than AK he's really asking for trouble.

I think, actually, villain's probably got the stone cold quad aces. At least, I hope he does, that would have been a sick hand call.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I didn't think about calling at the time, but I see how it might work better. I call and reevaluate on the turn, if he bets about $20 into a $35 pot, I can still call and see the river and lose slightly less than I did raising to 36 on the flop. That's valid. I could see calling the turn and then folding the river if he bets again as a line that might make more sense. And maybe win more money off a weaker hand. I take it that is why you would want to call there.

I re-raised because it is possible I am ahead and getting re-re-raised means I'm more than likely behind. A min-check-raise on an AA2 flop against a button raise doesn't necessarily mean an Ace, even though in this case it seems more likely. Any pocket pair is reasonable for him to hold on the check-raise, and it's possible many people would not raise an Ace there. A stronger player would probably raise (although for more money and not as quick) with air here.

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Old 07-31-2007, 06:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i think it's a donk played 66. He thinks you have an Ace. zero chance of anything else so I fold to the min raise prob.

all that unless we have mega history with him and this is some 5th level thing, which i doubt.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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meh, i can't read. i meant pocket 2's.
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