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Old 05-06-2008, 04:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Hero call(s) or idiot?

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a 6 max table with table pretty aggro players in most of the pots (MCPP and MonSheri)

I think I had a tight weak image at the table. I've not played too many pots yet.

***** Hand History for Game 16453453 ***** 0.50/1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit)
- Mon May 5 21:15:07 GMT 2008 Table Godfather (6 max) (Real Money)
-- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Jellybee (€23.05)
Seat 2: MCPP (€347.72)
Seat 3: feldrihan (€156.35)
Seat 4: CrazyGil69 (€27.25)
Seat 5: MonSheri (€152.40)
Seat 6: SilverNevada (€96.85)
feldrihan : Small Blind (€0.50)
MonSheri : Big Blind (€1)
Jellybee : Sit Out
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SilverNevada [ ]
SilverNevada : Raise (€4) Some of my raises have taken it down, so I'll try here
MCPP : Call (€4)
feldrihan : Fold
MonSheri : Call (€3) If anyone was going to call it was these 2
** Dealing Flop ** : [ ] At least I hit something
MonSheri : Check
SilverNevada : Bet (€8 ) Standard Cbet
MCPP : Fold
MonSheri : Call (€8 )
** Dealing Turn ** : [ ]
MonSheri : Bet (€13) I'm thinking he's trying to push me off whatever I have, probably thinking I have 2 overs, flush is a good bluff card
SilverNevada : Call (€13) Not ready to give up yet, but not an instant call
** Dealing River ** : [ ] If I was ahead I'm probably still ahead
MonSheri : Bet (€27) Pot now 81.5, so I'm getting 3-1
SilverNevada : Call (€27) Thought about this one for a long while

I don't put him on an overpair, he would have re-raised preflop with 2 in the pot.

I also don't want to be consistently pushed off pots like these.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just fold the turn. You probably don't have equity against his range of holdings with this hand.
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U got dem pocket sebens?

Oh wait, that beats you.

Mehhh this is a pretty close spot. Considering his entire range of holdings and the RIO a lot of it has for you on bad rivers, I'm with Ugi on folding. In general his line is v bluffy, but even so there's a million ugly rivers since you don't have a spade. If you had AT I would like it, but I think he could play a ten this way which edges this to a fold on the turn imo.

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Old 05-06-2008, 01:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This is close, but I agree that I think you have to let this go most of the time. It's -ev to constantly call someone down with middle pair, if you have a good read fine, otherwise dump the turn..

The line he's taking looks to me like he's value betting a baby flush or some weird two pair. You mentioned these guys were pretty loose, so that's my thoughts..
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I agree this is not a spot I want to be in often. In this instance, I felt that he could be bluffing me or betting a worse hand enough to make it profitable.

as it happens on the turn my equity was a whopping 93%! Hard to believe
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River is a pretty easy call after the turn call.

I don't know if I like turn either, though. You know, low equity, blah blah.
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