PoorManBilly

Tell me if I butchered this on every street or not.

1/3 live NL. Hero's stack is $500 and villain covers. Villain raises to $13 in late mid position. 1 caller and hero calls with :4c: :4s: on the button.

Villain is a loose, old, fucker who loves to call down and play any two hands. He doesn't open for a raise very often though. Hero is playing tight and hasn't shown down hardly any hands.

Flop:
:3d: :4h: :5s:
It gets checked to hero and he bets $30. Original raiser villain makes it $100 more to go and middle caller folds. Hero tanks. He's 100% positive villain would have bet out on the flop with AA/KK. There was no reason villain would expect hero would stab at the pot, so a C/R doesn't make any sense. Hero very very much wants to push, but is it possible villain has 67!?? Is he on some sort of funky draw? Hero is very confused. Hero calls for lack of a better option(?).

Turn:
:Jd:
Villain quickly bets $100. Hmmm... Hero tanks a little more and calls(?).

River:
:2h:
Villain checks.... Hero has $250-ish left and the pot is $460-ish. Hero does what on the river or any other streets?

Mirage

I'm probably reraising the flop, but in position I don't mind the call too much.

On this turn I'm putting in a raise, he bet like 1/4 pot and I don't want to let him off easy with a draw. Looks like a push is completely reasonable.

As played I'm checking behind on this river.

Looks like an overpair to me, I'm not giving him credit for a flopped str8 and aside from the stakes being higher than what you're used to I don't know why you would either.

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Eruu

With your reads I'm thinking he's trying to push a tight hero off his hand. My guess is that he is firing another barrel on the turn and I don't want to let this hand go at all. I think I'd shove the turn. And the only reason I'd not push the flop after the C/R is because I don't want to blow him off his bluff. When you shove the turn he has to call with any big pair or AJ and you'll get the most money.

Of course I never give villains credit for a real hand so I'd get stacked here if he had me beat.

Edit: As played checking behind is good because he's either given up or he hit it and you won't get called unless you are beat.

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Re-raise all in on the flop and get called by JJ+. I am going broke here, but I have no live experience.

PoorManBilly

Well, let me just say again that I was 100% positive it wasn't a big pair like AA/KK and I was thinking the same way Eruu was that if he was bluffing, I could just call and let him donk off some more chips on the turn/river. I feel like I had a pretty good read on this guy and didn't think he was drawing either though. Am I a donk for not pushing the turn no matter what?

I also thought (at the time...and probably still... I guess) that checking behind on the river was the right move. He isn't calling with anything that I beat.

As played, checking is not bad, though I will hate it when he shows AA. If he shows KK and lower, you obviously lost value. From the action, it doesn't look like he has 55 or 66 or 67. I can only put him on AA or some other pair. But, why would AA check the river?

You really think he is capable of bluffing using a check-raise with nothing? The reason for re-raising all-in on the flop is that there are many pairs that are going to call. Pairs as low as TT may call. 66 may call. Many scare cards can kill your action on the turn and river.

Did you check? What was his hand?

PoorManBilly

Yeah, I checked the river. I'll wait a bit longer and see if anyone wants to add their thoughts before I tell you his hand. I'll at least tell you that I was dead on about him not having AA/KK. There were a couple of reason I thought that. #1. It wasn't his style. #2. The guy in between us was a calling station and would have called him down with any pair. #3. I had position and he wouldn't have wanted to give a free card based on what I had seen of him. He was a donk, but I wouldn't say he was a "live" one. OTOH, I'm sitting there with a flopped set after he checked raised me and I'll I can think is he flopped the nuts. Welcome to nit-world.

NeXtToNoTHiNG

I don't like letting someone try to bluff me on dangerous boards, so reraise flop is my advice, though calling in position is ok. Definitely shove that turn though, you've let him get far enough. Check river behind is obv.

Ugignadl

You have to check behind on the river as played, he could have any A here. Very easy push on the flop.

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PoorManBilly

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I check the river and villain shows :5d: :5c:

Achachacha. That pretty much confirmed for me that I run bad and play even worse. There was a minor uproar when the hands were shown. The guy sitting next to me decided this would be a good time to tell me about the bad beats he took at the other table. My descent into full blown life tilt over the last two weeks is finally complete. :banghead: