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Old 12-23-2007, 01:06 AM
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This will be kinda short as I am too tired to type a much right now. I am curious on what you guys think about one particular hand. The table I was at when I first arrived was basically a group of friends. I had actually played a couple of these people in Monticello one of the times I was there. I did not do very good at first and I was down right at $300.00 at one point. At the point this hand occurred I had been down to my lowest and had won a few small hands and was a little over $100.00. I am in the SB with J:heart: 8:heart:. Two or three limpers to me and I complete and BB checks her option. BB is a very passive player but has a massive chip stack in front of her. She has caught me for a couple of big hands because she never raises. She limped with AA when I raised with KJ on the button and hit top pair, and AK when I raised with AQ and hit top pair. So the flop is JJ6, I bet out for 10, Super passive BB calls and her husband who is another big time calling station immediately to my right also calls. I am very cautious at this point not so much for the husband, he will call with anything, but because of the BB. If she called she probably has a J or 66. The turn is an 8. OK now I am feeling pretty good about it. So I check BB bets 10 and her husband calls. Now this is where it gets interesting. I announce raise. I pick up the 10 and put it out and then reach for more chips and the BB says call. I have not said how much I was going to raise yet. As soon as she said it I looked her and at that moment she realized she just fucked up and then she says well maybe I won't call. I then announce all-in. She tries to get out of it, but the dealer says you said call so you have to call. Her husband folds and she has KJ and I double up. I hear the big blond lady sitting next to the BB say something about he has to live with himself. I ask her if she thinks I was wrong in doing that and she says I was. I basically told her oh well sorry you feel that way. So was I being a dick taking advantage of her mistake? She was no newbie, so I don't feel bad about it. I may post a few more hands tomorrow.
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:11 AM
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There's a thread on 2p2 with a very similar situation. Too tired to find now. Maybe tomorrow.

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Old 12-23-2007, 07:27 AM
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Well played imho.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:06 AM
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Tough one...I don't know what I would do. I think the dealer was right in not letting her get out of it. But with her hand, is she really going to fold if you make a sizable bet (not go all in) anyway? She's probably going to the river and would have lost anyway since you knew she was passive and would probably call you down as you happily bet.

Reminds me of the hand at Wheeling when the new guy (I think it was his first time playing live) went all-in preflop, meaning the $22 he had in front of him...not the additional $150 or so he had just racked up.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:54 AM
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That's the other part, it's not like she was folding if she missed her river 3-outer anyway.
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from ept rules

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Verbal declarations in turn are binding. Action out of turn may be binding:
If a player bets, raises or calls out of turn the bet stands.
If the player who should have acted first chooses to bet more than the out-of-turn bet, the player who acted out of turn can either make up the difference to call, or take back his bet and fold, or re-raise.
so this case is not explicitly covered. I can see arguing for it to fit the second case tho.
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:37 PM
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Verbal declarations in turn are binding. Action out of turn may be binding:
If a player bets, raises or calls out of turn the bet stands.
If the player who should have acted first chooses to bet more than the out-of-turn bet, the player who acted out of turn can either make up the difference to call, or take back his bet and fold, or re-raise.
so this case is not explicitly covered. I can see arguing for it to fit the second case tho.
She didn't bet out of turn, it was her turn she just didn't let me say how much I was going to raise.
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Well played.
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I like your style..you should have climbed up on the table and licked the chips though!! :laughing:
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:30 PM
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A few more details on the trip. We left about 11:00AM and the traffic was horrible, I am glad one of the other guys volunteered to drive this time. It normally takes about 2.5 hours but with the construction on I-75 and the traffic it took about 3.5 hours. There are plenty of tables available when we get there. So all three of us get seated immediately, at different tables which is good. We had a real clash of personalities at my table. There was this really skinny old lady at our table who looked kind of rough, sitting next to a big blond lady, the one I mentioned in the opening thread. The blond lady is constantly talking, as is the old guy sitting on my right. He is the husband of the lady who called before I mentioned how much I would raise. I didn't mind their talking, but they would hold up the game sometimes when it was their turn. Not so much the blond but the old guy. At one point the skinny old lady ask the big blond if she is ever going to be quite and play, and the big blond ask her if she is ever going to quit being a bitch. :) The big blond had her out weighed by about 200 lbs I imagine, so the old lady got quite after that.

A few hands I remember. I mentioned in the other thread how the old lady with teh huge chip stack was very passive, and she took some big pots off me. Probably the biggest pot I won other than the one I talked about above, was with AA. I raise to 10 I think and I get two callers. The flop is AKx. all clubs. :upset: I have position, it is checked to me and I bet out for 25 or so. The talkative old guy calls. The turn is another K. The old guy goes all-in for about 15 or 20 more and I call. :D

I made one good lay down, I had AK on the button I raise to 10, and I get one caller the BB. He was a passive calling station as well, but would get aggressive at times. The flop is Txx. He checks and I C-bet 15. He calls. The turn is a K and I think yes!!!. So I bet out for 30, he agonizes for a few minutes and then goes all-in. He had me covered I had about 70 more. I laid it down after much sole searching and he showed me KT.

I guess about 6:30 this table breaks up and I have about $200 in chips. I am stuck for about 140 at this point. I get moved to another table. Since I moved from another table they let me sit without posting and I am UTG. I fold, then the very next hand in the BB I get 99. There are a few limpers and I make it 10 to go. I get one caller. The flop is 467, I figure my 99 is good and I bet out for 20, villain calls. The turn is a 5, I bet out for 30 and he goes all-in. He almost had me covered, it's 40 ,ore and I decided to call, he was bluffing with KQ, so I almost double up. I never went down on this table. I can't remember any big pots I lost, only small ones. Another big pot was when I have 7:club: 8:club: on the button. I call, two or three see the flop. The flop is 7xx where the xxs are both [s:qvjieito]spades[/s:qvjieito] clubs. The 7 was middle pair, no face cards. It's checked around to me and I bet 10. Get one caller. Villain is a black guy that looks like [s:qvjieito]Charles[/s:qvjieito] Bob Marley. He has been pretty tight but when he does decide to play he doesn't like to give it up. The turn is another rag and I make it 20 and he min raises me 20 more. I call. I hit my flush on the river, he checks and I bet 50 which puts him all-in. He whines for about 5 minutes and finally calls. I don't know what he had, he mucked but I won another nice pot.

The two guys with me both lost a small amount. Rob who is a pretty solid tight player was up about 400 when I spoke to him at 7:00, when we left at 9:00 he was down about 20. Weldon said he lost about 70, so I was the only winner. We all had a good time though.

[Edit] I was just looking over this and who the hell is Charles Marley? :oops: [/edit]
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