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Old 05-27-2008, 06:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default To slow play or not to slow play that is the question

No need for strat discussion because I Know I walked myself rite into this one. Does slow play ever work for anyone???



Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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BB: $15
Hero (UTG): $24.20
UTG+1: $15.10
UTG+2: $14.80
MP1: $27.50
MP2: $10
CO: $18.15
BTN: $24.55
SB: $22.75

Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 4 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.25) J 2 5 (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks

Turn: ($1.25) 9 (5 Players)
SB bets $0.25, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $1, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, SB calls $0.75

River: ($5.25) Q (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+2 folds, SB raises to $9, BB folds, Hero raises to $22.95 and is All-In, SB calls $12.50 and is All-In

Results: $48.25 Pot ($2.40 Rake)
Hero showed 5 5 (three of a kind, Fives) and LOST (-$22.75 NET)
SB showed K T (a straight, Nine to King) and WON $45.85 (+$23.10 NET)
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You need to flop quads to successfully slowplay. Otherwise, bet...and be happy to win with 55.
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Old 05-29-2008, 01:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The circumstances you want to strongly consider slowplaying a set under are

- Raised pot (therefore not quite as concerned about building the pot asap)
- HU or 3-way, this multiway you are letting too many possible backdoors freeroll you
- You think your opponent(s) is so aggro that you stand to gain more on average by giving him some rope
- Very dry board texture, i.e. not a single card will scare you on the turn

I only see one of those assumptions met; this is a good slowplay flop. However, the pot is tiny! You need to bet to build it up! If you do decide to slowplay the flop anyway, you need to put in a big c/r asap, which is going to look super strong and probably scare away action you would have gotten by bet/bet/betting. Betting all the way will give you the best chance of getting this all-in asap as well, or at least make the fish shovel some more money in before he hits his gutterball.
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mirage said it all. You need to build the pot up as much as possible.
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It depends on the action at the table, are people aggressively calling? or aggressively raising? or are they limping and folding to any raise?

What dynamics have occured in the last few hands, is everyone scared of a monster hand or are they all taking action on the highest pair winning?

Edit: BTW, you were OOP.
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