Wow ML posts a tourney hand!

[Ugignadl]

Sorry ML, but I fold preflop.

[MewsicLovr]

Originally Posted by Ugignadl

Sorry ML, but I fold preflop.

Point understood and taken - but now that I'm here, call or fold?

[jcarter]

My heart says call.


But if I put myself into that situation, My BALLS say fold!

[bigloser2448]

Originally Posted by MewsicLovr

Point understood and taken - but now that I'm here, call or fold?

It sucks, but with no reads, it has to be a fold. IMO, even though any rational player shouldn't have called your flop bet with a flush draw, I think more times than not you be up against the flush on that turn. It really doesn't matter what he actually had in this exact spot to determine whether it's right or wrong. Again, just my opinion.

[Ugignadl]

Originally Posted by MewsicLovr

Point understood and taken - but now that I'm here, call or fold?

Well, I don't think I bet the flop either if I for some reason am here with this hand. You have a bloated pot that way, and any value you need from the flush draw can be achieved on the turn. It's not anything like a cash game, the tournament situation, and you don't need or want to get maximum value in chips from
every street. It's not worth the risk. In tournaments you need to play the balancing game between achieving maximum value and minimum risk.

If for some reason I think I'm playing a cash game and I have bet the flop like this, I instacall the turn.

[darinvg]

Yeah, too agro PF. I'm calling the turn.
Why are all the threads disappear in this section?

[Mirage]

As much as I love T9o, I think these guys are right; it might be a bit light to come in for a raise here. As played I call the turn but I'm not fist-pumping.

What about JTo, would you guys iso with that here?

[MewsicLovr]

Originally Posted by darinvg

Yeah, too agro PF. I'm calling the turn.
Why are all the threads disappear in this section?

Look in your user options to increase the thread filter to show all threads from all time (if that's what you want). I think the default is two weeks.

[darinvg]

Ah, thanks ML.
I don't raise JTo either. I guess I'd just limp JTs. I'm not a 6 max expert but they've been going fairly well. More discussion would be good.

[MewsicLovr]

Not really defending my play but I will say that these things seem kinda weak-tight for the most part in the later levels; a lot of times a raise will take the blinds, and the other times a simple 1/2-2/3 pot flop bet will take it down, and that's completely ignoring my actual hand.

Might be my sample size though, dunno. Interested in thoughts.

*edit* by "later levels" I mean about 50/100 and up...this is probably still too early, granted.