in a tourney, i don't think you really get played back at like that - I think hoping he has AK/AQ/AJ is optimistic...I could see AT maybe .

also the small pairs might call the flop but I think they're going to either c/c or c/f the turn, open shoving is really rare unless it's a made hand.

if you compare the hands he would do this with that beat me (made hands like flushes/straights/sets) vs the hands that he might do this with that I beat (random overcards, lower pairs, lower two pair, throw in a random bluff), it's really close, I just don't think I've seen too many cases where someone bluff-shoves into the pfr who's shown a lot of strength and no sign of folding - it almost looks like he hopes I have a big pair and can't fold it.

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(2:13:49 PM) Mirage: I had already decided to get it in while he was timing down though so his FE was nonexistant
(2:14:05 PM) Mirage: I mean wtf does he think I have there when I take that line pre and on the flop
(2:14:11 PM) Eric: {random}
(2:14:14 PM) Mirage: lol